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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Those arfe stats. The true definition of elite is someome who stands out and is unique. Accumulating stats is great but you can do that without being elite.

Example. QBs can have a lot of yards even by throwing short pases. We saw that with JG.and others have done the same. They can throw INTs even when they are right on target and the receiver doesn't handle the pass. They can take sacks because of bad O line play or because they aren't seeing the field well.

My point is stats don't mean a whole lot. Using terms like elite or franchise are fine except they don't really have anty tdefined definition. What one guy calls elite another person might call average. Neither is right or wrong. Just an opinion. The true elites usually have no arguments. Montana. Marino. Mahomes. Brady. These guys were elite and nobody would argue. They won under all types of conditions and with or without great talent.

Statistics measure what makes someone stand out.
If you lead the league in a bunch of categories, you're elite.
He was elite in 2023.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Those arfe stats. The true definition of elite is someome who stands out and is unique. Accumulating stats is great but you can do that without being elite.

Example. QBs can have a lot of yards even by throwing short pases. We saw that with JG.and others have done the same. They can throw INTs even when they are right on target and the receiver doesn't handle the pass. They can take sacks because of bad O line play or because they aren't seeing the field well.

My point is stats don't mean a whole lot. Using terms like elite or franchise are fine except they don't really have anty tdefined definition. What one guy calls elite another person might call average. Neither is right or wrong. Just an opinion. The true elites usually have no arguments. Montana. Marino. Mahomes. Brady. These guys were elite and nobody would argue. They won under all types of conditions and with or without great talent.

Statistics measure what makes someone stand out.
If you lead the league in a bunch of categories, you're elite.
He was elite in 2023.
i know he was up there in the ranks. i haven't checked in a long time and it sounds like you have.

How many stats was he number 1 at?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know he was up there in the ranks. i haven't checked in a long time and it sounds like you have.

How many stats was he number 1 at?

TD percentage, YPA, AY/A, YPC, passer rating, QBR.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know he was up there in the ranks. i haven't checked in a long time and it sounds like you have.

How many stats was he number 1 at?

TD percentage, YPA, AY/A, YPC, passer rating, QBR.
add in the ones close to number 1 and you would have a great example of some playing at an elite level
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Lost 10 of them this year WITH Brock.

Didn't really love that.

Plenty of cheap QBs out there we could lose 10 games with. If he regresses further or plays like he did this year we will lose plenty of games next year and the year after and the year after since we would have no way to move on from him.

With his average to mediocre play this year, the best case Brock has is that there really are no good options for us this offseason to upgrade the position and that he had a good first couple years so we must and are forced to HOPE he can recapture that level of performance. Meaning we have to pay him HUGE $ for very few elite tangible traits and hope he can process his way back to better performances from his first two seasons and not look like a better Jimmy version 2.0 with ill-timed INTs when the game is in the balance. Since we are prob stuck with him I have not choice but to HOPE this year was an aberration. Wish we could just let him play out his contract and see what he does next season before paying him big.

I don't trust him anymore. I don't want to pay him 55-60m for past performance when I am no where near convinced his future performance will resemble his first two years. And I admit recency bias is a factor.

Brock believers I get why they have no problem paying him on a long-term deal.

Still thinking Lance needs more reps? Lol

Lance needs more and more chances when he clearly sucked but yet trade Purdy after a season of an insane amount of adversity...after winning back to back NFCC and an SB run.


I do think Lance needs more reps.

Doesn't mean he will be good once he gets them but obviously a super raw player needs as many reps as possible. I cannot judge ultimate suck-ness on 4 starts in the NFL and make definitive conclusions. But it looks like he won't be the player the 49ers wanted him to be which is good since he is on Dallas now.

Trading Purdy has to do with his contract and wanting a long-term one in the 55-60m per year area. That is just a huge risk to take based on what we saw this year in his performance and injury proneness to his throwing arm. If one is going to get that kind of money he should be performing much better than he did adversity or not, and we should expect to see strong performances during adversity and elevate his teammates around him.

Just curious... were you a Jimmy fan his last couple years here and still believed in him because we made the SB with him in 2020? I have no idea.

I like Brock and maybe he can be great assuming he will perform like he did his first two years. Problem is there is now, based on his mediocre performance this year, huge RISK in extending his contract long-term at that kind of money. Go ahead give him the money but the Niners better structure some sort of out after two years where they can move off him for only a limited cap hit if he keeps regressing allowing us the flexibility to draft a QB high in the draft if we like one of them and not feel as though we can't because of all the $ committed to Brock.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
add in the ones close to number 1 and you would have a great example of some playing at an elite level

Did you think Tua was an elite quarterback going into last season?
Rooting for a Mahomes type deal. 62m a year 9 year extension. Sets the pay scale but by year 3 his salary won't be top 10.
[ Edited by Jakemall on Jan 6, 2025 at 12:50 PM ]
YAY! Brock just informed the media that he is willing to give the 49'ers a huge discount to get this done quickly. Everybody wins that way🎊

Deep down Brock knows how fortunate he was to even be given this opportunity. I knew he is a smart man!
[ Edited by ninerfaninnorcal on Jan 6, 2025 at 12:51 PM ]
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
YAY! Brock just informed the media that he is willing to give the 49'ers a huge discount to get this done quickly. Everybody wins that way🎊
he said he would even play for free
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
YAY! Brock just informed the media that he is willing to give the 49'ers a huge discount to get this done quickly. Everybody wins that way????


Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
he said he would even play for free

Part of me wouldn't doubt that either. You can tell he loves playing football.
if lynch paraag kyle don't get the deal done quickly before OTAs they should all be fired!
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know he was up there in the ranks. i haven't checked in a long time and it sounds like you have.

How many stats was he number 1 at?

TD percentage, YPA, AY/A, YPC, passer rating, QBR.
add in the ones close to number 1 and you would have a great example of some playing at an elite level

Now do same thing for 2024 in all those categories.
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know he was up there in the ranks. i haven't checked in a long time and it sounds like you have.

How many stats was he number 1 at?

TD percentage, YPA, AY/A, YPC, passer rating, QBR.
add in the ones close to number 1 and you would have a great example of some playing at an elite level

Now do same thing for 2024 in all those categories.
then add 2022 in also
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i know he was up there in the ranks. i haven't checked in a long time and it sounds like you have.

How many stats was he number 1 at?

Passer rating
QBR
YPC
YPA
AYA
TD%
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
then add 2022 in also

I don't know if you missed my post, but I referenced Tua in my last reply to you.

Tua led the league in 2022 in every one of those categories, except for QBR where he was 3rd. Was he an elite QB? I think the very obvious answer is no.

He was a QB who played well in a great offense.
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